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4.7.18

PODCAST 315: Uncle Sam & Homecoming


This week the Horror Duo discuss a pair of patriotic themed films in celebration of Independence Day. Forest discusses the highs and lows of the questionable and often overlooked '90s pseudo-slasher Uncle Sam. Cory revisits the cable series Masters of Horror by sharing his thoughts on the Joe Dante directed Homecoming - a "post 9/11 time capsule".

Also Forest gushes over First Reformed, while also lamenting Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom. Cory covers his recent birthday celebration, polishing off this year's Summer School reviews and watching the latest Astron-6 flick The Editor. All this and a more in depth discussion of what movies mean to Forest & Cory in light of the Last Jedi "controversy". This portion of the discussion lasts awhile. If you're bored, skip to the 97 minutes and 52 second mark for their very first voicemail comments!

"UNCLE SAM"

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"HOMECOMING"

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TIME CODE

  • 00:00 - Introduction & News
  • 33:56- "Uncle Sam"
  • 56:56 - Know Your Horror Trivia
  • 58:17 - "Homecoming"
  • 80:19 - Comments begin & "The Last Jedi" happens
  • 97:52 Voice Mails & Conclusion

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4 comments:

Anomalous Host said...

Nice counter-argument to what I said. I pity you don't consider one other thing that throws a wrench into your entire stance. The corporations that make the films, and how much they care about the films (or not). While it's true they largely exist just to create films to make a profit off of them, there's other factors to consider. George Lucas didn't create Star Wars just to make money, it was to tell a story he had a personal investment in. Same thing with the prequels, though with more mixed results. Oliver Stone did something similar with his film Platoon, as did Francis Ford Coppola with Apocalypse Now, and so did Akira Kurosawa with Dreams. In those cases, the film was a method of expressing their own personal/political/philosophical views, or just to tell a story they felt needed to be told. It wasn't just a cash-grab for them.

On the other side of the coin, corporations also make films for similar reasons pointed out in John Carpenter's They Live: subliminal messaging (sometimes it's too blunt to be considered subliminal, at least in terms of being subtle). Sometimes the films are made to encourage audiences to think in a certain way, a "herd mentality". And sometimes a film is made with little to no passion other than the subliminal message, which is something many critics nowadays are picking up on because it's difficult to avoid. And if the film becomes more about the message than about the story, which is what many critics of The Last Jedi are arguing against, then the criticism is inevitably going to be about the message. And the director and others responsible for making that film lash out at the criticism, becoming just as bad, if not worse, than the worst of those they argue against.

And it would be nice if many could just, "make their own damn movie." The problem is that many face obstacles from corporations like Disney, among others, because the film industry has become political. Films like 2018's Death Wish can't be released without facing criticism, saying it's "the wrong film at the wrong time." Films like 2017's The Red Pill can't be made without resorting to Kickstarter after backlash over the direction it was heading, as a documentary. And, of course, there's the cancellation of conservative television shows such as Last Man Standing despite the fact that it was doing so well in the ratings compared to other shows on similar channels. Many people like me have a right to be pissed when the kinds of films/shows we want aren't getting made simply because they don't fit in with.

Lastly, you can claim all you want that "it's just a movie" for you, but that statement would be easier to swallow when, considering this is a podcast that is all about violent/bloody/gory/rapy movies, you guys say you're not interested in some so-and-so movie like 2018's Death Wish because it's about some old upper-class white dude turning into a vigilante and killing people. Sounds like some of the media you've been watching over the past few years has had an impact on the types of films you'd be willing to watch. I'm not saying you have to watch that movie, I'm just giving an example. There's other films I can recommend over that one.

Argument for films being more than just films: https://theanomaloushost.org/2018/06/30/its-not-just-a-movie-the-importance-of-films/

Anomalous Host said...

Oh, right, and one other thing. If films didn't have an impact on your lives in any way, in particular films with rape scenes in them, then how do you explain the "rape jar"?

Andrew said...

belated Happy Birthday Corey, and Happy Independence Day to both of ya!

I have to disagree with your characterisation of JP3 though. I don’t really recall there being many stupid decisions made in that film. I mean, maybe returning to island was stupid but what parent wouldn’t do something dangerous and stupid to save their child? Sam Neil thought he wouldn’t even land on the island and was being offered an obscene amount of money to be a tour guide, and the young palaeontologist only stole that raptor egg impulsively (IIRC). At least no character in JP3 put hundreds of lives in danger to save a bunch of animals.

Come to think of it, why is it a big deal that the volcano will wipe out the dinosaurs? Why can’t we just clone them again?

Anomalous Host said...

@Andrew
Ditto.