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PODCAST 209: The Secret of the Black Widow & Nekromantik

This week the Horror Duo take their summer vacation to Deutschland to feast upon bratwurst and hearty German ales. Forest reviews The Secret of the Black Widow -- one of the many German crime (Krimi) films which predated the Italian Giallo. Cory reviews an indie film that has been and remains banned in several countries, Nekromantik.

Forest & Cory also chat about Herschell Gordon Lewis' Blood Feast, which is currently being remade, the first trailer for Rob Zombie's 31 and Friday the 13th: the Game debuts at E3 -- which gets the guys thinking about what they hope is in it when it's released. All this, and a Scooby Doo twist!


  • 00:00 Intro & News
  • 24:10 "The Secret of the Black Widow"
  • 39:51 Know Your Horror Trivia
  • 41:45 "Nekromantik"
  • 61:00 Comments & Conclusion



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Gex said...

Well at least Forest said Passion of the Christ is a well-made movie, which is good enough for me. But I'm not done with it yet. I don't consider this diffused yet, not while comments are made that demand a response from another perspective.

Although now it's a little dated, it's very much an early 2000s movie with the overuse of slow-mo and shots are color corrected.
Apparently Zack Snyder doesn't think that's dated at all.

There's just no subtlety, everything is delivered with the subtlety of a sledgehammer.
Guess who else does that? The Japanese. Or just Asian films in general. You want to bitch about subtlety, you should be bitching about those Takeshi Miike films, among others.

When watching a Jesus movie, I want to feel enlightened and uplifting. With this I didn't feel that at all. [...] In the end you don't know who Jesus is.
And you're not tired of all the sappy as shit Jesus movies that come out every other fucking year? I praise this movie for being different. And really, considering who this film is intended for, does it really need to explain who Jesus is?

To focus so much on the violence and no other aspect leaves the audience feeling drained.
I'm pretty sure the goal of the movie was to have the audience feel emotionally drained. It's nothing new to make a movie that has the goal of draining emotions from the audience. That aside, there are other aspects, such as the reactions to the violence, how the violence changes people for better or worse, how the Roman guards reacted (not all react the same), how the crowds react, how the Jews react, how the politicians react (typical politician behavior, wanting no responsibility). And the movie is still willing to show a light at the end of the tunnel after everyone is exhausted from the experience.

The Judas angle [...] we could tell that Judas was feeling bad, we didn't need little demon imp children running around terrorizing him.
Ah yes, that aspect. I believe the intention of having brief demonic satanic images was to allude to the idea that the stakes are high, spiritual aspects come into play. Notice that when Satan makes an appearance on screen, the only people who ever take note of him/her are Jesus, Mary, and Judas. Jesus and Mary noticed because they're portrayed as good people. The Roman guards and everyone in the streets don't take notice of him because they don't know of the evil within themselves. If they don't know of the evil within themselves, how can they know of it outside of themselves? Judas knows he did an evil thing, and knows of the evil within him, and thus is also able to see it outside of him. Evil can corrupt and torture, and those who are pure can see how it corrupts and tortures others, and tempts them.

There's nothing beyond the surface level, like propaganda.
I've stated how there is something beyond the surface level. As for propaganda, what is the propaganda here? It's at the very least less propaganda driven than A Serbian Film.

One other note about the violence. The scriptures point out that when Judas killed himself by throwing/hanging himself off the edge of a cliff, he bursts in mid-air and his bowels gush out (so the film could've been more violent). The reason they limit the bloodshed mostly to Jesus is because Jesus' blood is also symbolic, or have you forgotten the whole "eat of his flesh, drink of his blood" thing? It seems appropriate that it should be a bloody film when the blood of Jesus is supposed to help cleanse the souls of the repentant. For a film that states it's about "passion" at the very beginning, what other way was there to appropriately tell it other than having much bloodshed from one man?

PS: I'm surprised you guys didn't catch onto the fact that the actress from Irreversible plays Mary Magdalene in Passion of the Christ, speaking of emotionally draining movies with a light at the end of the tunnel.

Blake Matthews said...

My final two cents on the Passion subject: To me the best and most cathartic films dealing with religion involve devout Buddhist monks cracking their opponents' skulls with a bo staff, after which they reverently bow their heads and say, "Buddha Bless You."

Kenny Teeology said...

I'm a little confused whether you're really broadcasting from these different countries, or still from the abandoned moon base as your announcer claims. Why would airplane miles matter so much when compared to the massive moon mileage you guys must accrue? Anyway, when you return to the moon, I hope you both review movies set on an abandoned moon base, planetary base, or space station.